Fred's German Escape

Sometimes you discover things that throw other info out of the window. The internet (well perople who put things on it) has always suggested that Fred was in Ruhleben prisoner of war camp for a short time. This was obviously great for us as it was really easy to research and also quite an interesting place.

However, we have recently discovered that this is not the case. A journalist, called Mark Rowe, who keeps a blog discovered an interview with Fred in 1914, where he tells of his escape from Germany.Mark was helpful in getting back in touch with me and I have located the full article and it's a brilliant story.

If we had completed our book last year we would have got some fact wrong due to unreliable sources of info. Now we have the Fred account of what really happened to him and there can't be anything better than that.

Here's a link of Mark's blog on Fred. He didn't know about Fred before and just found this one story interesting. I'm very pleased he wrote about it.

http://www.sportsbooks.ltd.uk/blog/post_details/159_freds-amazing-german-fooling-knee

New Cigarette Card

Hi,

I have just managed to secure this cigarette card of Fred and thought I would update the blog.

This is the first time I have seen this card, although it is of a fairly common photograph of Fred. Similar to the Wills cards, which came out at the same time and used the same photographs, however the Clarke's cards are much harder to come by.

A wills card will set you back between £5-£20 with some of the high profile players costing more. Billy Meredith went of around the £50 mark not so long ago.

The Clarke's cards start at £30.

For the most part ebay has reduced the cost of cigarette cards but there are still some that fetch big money. A Cohen and Weenan card of GO Smith went for £206 a couple of months ago.

I'm not 100% sure but I think the Cohen and Weenan cards may have been the first football cigarette cards. they appeared around 1897-98 time and I believe that there is one of Fred in the set. Part of me hopes that it never comes up on ebay as I'm not sure I want to spend that £150 on a cigarette card, maybe Fred isn't worth as much as that. I do own the Jack Earp card from the set and I didn't pay any where near that money for that, but have always considered it a lucky purchase.

There are only 6 cards of Fred (not including the Wednesday 1896 winners card, which is worth £1) I now own 3 out of the 6, with the Guinea Gold card as my 3rd. Guinea Gold cards are my favourite types and seem to go from anything from £1 to £100. The Archie Brash and Alec Brady cards are very nice cards.

Things are still moving with the book I'm pleased to report, but nothing much to report other than that.

If you are a Sheffield Wednesday supporter you may like to check out Jason Dickinson and John Brodie's new book 'The Complete Record'http://www.dbpublishing.co.uk/buy/sheffield-wednesday-the-complete-record_1105002501.htm

I have recently moved house and it's been sent to the wrong address, so I have not seen it yet. I have been reliably informed that it is a cracker, but that is what I have come to expect from these two. With '100 years at Hillsborough' and 'The Wednesday Boys' both being superb and unrivaled volumes.

The Canadians

I have purchased a photograph of the 1891 Canadian team that toured England. Mainly to illustrate a story where a player called Dalton bit the ear of a Sheffield Wednesday player.

Dalton could not of been playing in the match that the photograph is from and is pictured stood at the side in a coat and bowler hat. He looks a bit brute! It's always nice to put a face to the names in the stories. Those of you who have read this blog will know that I have worked hard to make sure that key people do have a picture in the book.

Dalton remained in the uK and played for Sunderland. He is also recored as possibly being the first ever player to score a penalty kick in an 1891 match in Belfast.

1894

I am excited to say that a photograph of the 1894 Scotland V England match has surfaced and will be included in our book. This is a highly significant image. Not only is it the oldest surviving photograph of Celtic Park but it is, to my knowledge, the oldest surviving photograph of an international football match!!! That is pretty special if true.

The photograph has surfaced from the Celtic historians and I have exchanged a few pictures with them in return. My photographs of Celtic park (which were all of the 1898 International match were described as breathtaking and groundbreaking!!! Well that is nice to know.

Watford

Lots of work being done towards writing the Watford Chapter. The Southern United one has just about been done. Both are good stories with suprising detail. Southern united is a very interesting one. Purchased 3 more cigarette cards and planning what nespapers to read this summer in London.

The Journey

So, I’ve found a little time to add some more to the blog. So I thought I’d give a bit of background about how this all started and the journey.

I’m pretty sure that it all started off around 1990, I would have been 9 or 10 at the time and was in Gainsborough at my grandparents (Spicksley) house. For some reason, that year I was shown 2 medals and told that they belonged to an old relative and that they were the FA Cup Winners medal and the League Championship winners medal. These medals have long since been sold, infact nothing original remains of Fred’s in the family. Of course this would have not been the case had it come my way!

The Spicksley side of the family were never into football and I quickly worked out that one of the medals was not the FA Cup winners medal at all, but an English League Representative medal V Scotland in 1895. I should say here that the name Spicksley is not miss-spelt, nor does it mean that I am unrelated. As detailed in our book there were a few spellings of Spicksley through some illiterate famil members back in the Victorian times, well, namely Freds dad. Fred was a Spiksley and his brother was a Spicksley, I’m from Fred’s brothers side. There are no direct decentants of Fred as his son Fred Jnr had no children.

That day I took some rubbings of the medals and the research started soon after. Back then I was only 9 years old. I looked in some basic books and got the basic facts. Mainly the Newspaper reproduction style books that were all the vogue at that time and a couple of large books by Bryon Butler. I still have them and the medal rubbings.

I soon discovered Fred had played for England and Scored the winning goals in the FA Cup final. For a 9 year old I didn’t think I’d be able to find much more out but was obviously delighted with what I had found.

I think my uncle phoned Sheffield Wednesday around this time and for some reason ended up speaking the manager at the time – Million Pound Man Trevor Francis. I don’t think he liked Trevor as he was not very helpful. If I was Trevor I don’t think I would have cared either!

Anyway, they sent me some poor photocopies out of Farnsworth’s book. This gave me the first ever picture that I ever saw of Fred. It was distorted and poor quality. Still, I loved it at the time. It was the first one of Fred in a Wednesday Line-up in 1891. I have a lovely reproduction of it now.

With a these few bits of information I wrote my first article about Fred at the age of 11. It was for a school English project. I still have it and it is full of mistakes due to assumptions I made at the time. I think I had Fred winning the League title twice, not knowing that he left Wednesday after their first championship victory.

Some time later I realised that you could order books to be sent to your local library. So I spent some time filling in these little postcards with a list of football books. A few on the FA Cup but mostly Sheffield Wednesday History books by Keith Farnsworth. Gradually the books started to arrive, they took a month or so for the library to find and get to the small Uttoxeter library. If only I had asked my dad to take me to Sheffield Library at the time!

There have been some significant moments along the way. Reading the pen picture in Farnsworths Complete Record book. It was then that I realised that Fred was not just a decent Victorian footballer who won a few things. This was obviously a special player. I think I bored some of my schoolmates to death back then.

After reading all the Wednesday books and meeting Jason Dickinson the information did start to dry up a little as I progressed through school. I’d done well for a youngster, probably having 2 or 3 ring binders of info and pictures by the age of 16.

Through A’Levels and University not a lot got done. I thought I’d got everything I would ever find and I gradually got interested in other things. Mainly music and my artwork. It was Music that ultimately led to possibly the biggest most important discovery that would influence the book.

In 2001 I visited Glastonbury Festival for the 2^nd time, mainly to celebrate the end of University. Whilst looking through the market stalls with friends we came across a second hand book stall. It wasn’t anything particularly special, but art students like 2^nd hand books. I honestly would have left the stall within one minute, it just so happened that I opened the long line of books up to a book called ‘To the Palace for the Cup’. I obviously know what is was and what may be in it.

Flicking to 1896 as soon as possible I discovered a double page that was almost entirely covered by an etching of Fred scoring the winning goal in the FA Cup Final. The £8 or £10 the book cost was found very quickly I can tell you.

So after a good 6 years of assuming nothing more would come my way all of a sudden was this picture. Not only that, but the picture was referenced to a newspaper, the Illustrated News. Also the Author was easy to get in touch with and he directed me to Andy, a brilliant guy who’s passion for Victorian football and in particular the Crystal Palace FA Cup Finals is just wonderful.

I soon realised that there were hundreds of newspapers to look in and my contact list of grew. I was in the Newspaper Library in London for hours on end. I spent a fortune on reprographics. I’ve travelled up and down the UK researching the story and amassed 14 hefty volumes, 4 of which contain all the photographs and illustrations for the book. I think we are looking at 350 pictures at the moment. Over 50 of which are photo’s of Fred.

The biggest moment so far for me had to be finding the Video of Fred on Craven Cottage in 1931. It took nearly a week from knowing it existed to actually being able to play it. Technology on websites in 2002 was not what it is now! The video is now on Youtube and was featured in the Guardian newspaper. It has been one long adventure really, with some years where little has happened for various reasons and then years of mega activity. It is all starting to come together now and I can’t wait for the final volume to come out.

Been a while

Well, it's been a long time since my last post and inevitably gives the impression that not much has happened. This isn't the case. Since Christmas the book has come on at greater pace. The aim is to have a fully completed draft for December and this is starting to look realistic.

The writing has inevitably led to little to report on here as all the information is nolonger new to me and I get less excited by it than if I have just found it. There are occassional realisations and being reminded of things that I'd forgotten.

I know this book has taken too long to write. Most other people would be able to knock the thing together in a year or two. But the truth is that there is so much information that we need to do justice to Fred and Victorian football.

I should be doing a final trip to London during the summer to complete a little bit of research. I have also been bulding up my collection of Cigarette cards for the book. The intention has always been to heavily illustrate the book and to put as many faces to names as possible. People seem to like cigarette cards so hopefully they will enjoy seeing them in the book. I was really pleased to get hold of a card of Nicol, the Bradford player who broke 2 of Freds ribs with a diliberately poor challenge.

My most recent purchase was a card of Jack Earp, the Wednesday captain in 1896 FA Cup Final. It is a very rare card printed in 1897. I have never seen a card from this set ever before. Catalogue price was £85 but you can pick cards up cheaper these days with ebay so I got it a lot cheaper than this.

I also bought my first Baines card. I have always wanted one, although I have never seen one for sale for any of the teams that Fred Played for. Actually, this isn't quite true. The Glossop one went for too much money and the Sheffield Wednesday one wasn't that good and dated after Fred had left the club, picturing a player Fred never played with. Gainsborough Trinity is the one I am after. The one I bought was for Lincoln City. During Fred's time at Gainsborough Trinity there were many local battles with City and this Baines Card will slot in nicely there.

With regards to the writing. All England International chapters have been written now with the excelption of the Billy Meradith Wales match in 1898. All the FA Cup 1896 run has been written apart from the Final. The final is a massive task, far too much research that needs sifting through.

Leeds City Cahpter is written and Southern United is nearly complete pending final research in the summer. Most of Gainsborough Trinity and early days is written. Left to do is the 2nd Division Championship winning season, some of 1903, Most of Fred's coaching carear, English League Representative matches, And then finally, his later life. Obviously the coaching and later life research is thinner and shouldn't take as long as what has already been wirtten.

There will also be a section about significant people fred played with, a reference section at the back where pen pictures will be for the players that we have come to love whilst reading about Fred, as mentioned in previous posts.

Renaissance Man

I just found out that Fred will have a whole page to himself in a new Sheffield Wednesday book by Jason Dickinson. It's an updated 'Complete Record' style book and no doubt will be superb just like Jason's other books. Fred's page will be titled 'Renaissance Man' which made me smile.

I think Jason has a couple of books on the go at the moment, and Wednesday supporters should consider themselves lucky to have had Jason write their history because I can tell you that not many football clubs have history books that come close to those available on Sheffield Wednesday. Farnsworth's and Sparling's books are also brilliant.

Other news.

Well the book is coming along very nicely. A couple more chapters have been written and most of the major chapters are down in draft. The massive two chapters are the FA Cup run and the FA Cup final chapters. The research into these games is so big that it may take a long time to write them. But once done there really won't be anything quite like it from any other football club history. I hope so anyway.

I have some exciting news on something else I believe, but cannot write that on here at the moment.

Also, apparently Jack Madden has some stuff on display at the Scottish Football museum. I'm not sure it is worth the journey or me to go and see. I have visited the museum and if I am in Glasgow I will go again and recommend it to anyone who happens to be in the city. Traveling hundreds of miles just to see it is not recommended.

It is very much the 'Scottish' football museum. Which is fair enough. But obviously cannot compete with the Preston museum which holds the Fifa collection amongst others. Also, when I was there the Scottish museum was run by old men who would only talk about when Scotland beat England. I was there a few hours and that is all I could hear them talking about. But I must say that most Scottish people, including these old guys in the museum are great people. It is only the minority that are horrible to my sister because she was English. All she did wrong was not know what a potato Scone was.

There were som nice photographs from a victorian magazine from the 1903 England V Scotland match at Bramell Lane on ebay last week. They did not sell at a £10 starting price. I found that a little strange, I was tempted by them, but ultimately they are not connected to my story and it was an extra tenner for something I wouldn't have had much use for. Was kind of hoping someone would have some use for them.

My friend has recommended that I read Lost in France, the story of a Welsh Goalkeeper killed in WW1. It does look good and I've ordered a copy.

How's it going?

Well, I know I haven't updated this blog in a while, but I just haven't had too much to report in recent times. This in not through a lack of progress with the writing though, it is still coming on. I mainly report new research I guess and we havn't been focused on researh resently.

However a few things have turned up.

My dad was in Long Eaton and popped into their library and found a few excellent photographs. When Gainsborough Trinity played Long Eaton Rangers in their Midland League Championship winning season there was a big spectical to be seen with international cyclist using the track that cicled the pitch. One was Stillman Whittaker, a very famous world record holder. He was training for a world record atempt the following week, which he did indeed succeed at.

You can look up Stillman Whittaker on the internet, there is some stuff there.

My dad ound photographs of the track and one of Cyclists stood in line with their penny farthings. It's a great picture and from the correct year.

Other news is that my friend managed to get hold of a Sheffield Wednesday 1896 FA Cup winners mug. That's a really nice item!

And that a relative of Len Oliver the Fulham player who is in Fred's cinefilm found the video on Youtube and sent me a message. It's always nice to hear from people like that.

The current plan for the book is to self-publish 100 copies that are traditionally bound to a high standard. Sell as many to subscribers as possible and then sell remaining copies in the Shef Weds shop. It is sells well there may be a 2nd edition, however the priority is to get the book published to a high standard and make sure everyone who wants one gets one. Beyond that it doesn't really bother me if we sell many more. I think we are looking at 1 1/2 years to publication.

America

A book has just been digitased and put online about football in America during the 1920-21 season. It must have gone on in the last few days. In it red writes on of the main articles about the current condition of football in America, the good bits and how it can be improved.

It totals 3000 words long and is very good. He comments on teams he has watched and is his usual outspoken self. I can't believe that in the space of a couple of months we have gone from knowing that Fred was in the US in the early 20's to now haing enough research for a complete chapter.

The internet has been amazing for us. when I started this research 17 years ago I had no idea that one day an American University Library would digitise an odd book about Soccer in 1920 and you would be able to see each page digitally photographed.

Also, Fred gets a mention in a 1925 newspaper called Truth that was published in Wellington, NZ. Commenting on the work he has done in American and Mexico. This has also been digitised and put online in recent weeks.

Swine

Well, rather annoyingly, I've finally been struck down by the Swine Flu. I guess this was always going to happen in my line of work and Last thursday it finally did. I'm nearly recovered now, but it explains the lack of updates.

The book is ticking along. Nothing too exciting to report, just that it is being done.

Rather more exciting is that I got an email from Bernard Thompson from Prague, saying that he is writing a book about Johnny Maddan. This is very good news as he is someone who really does deserve to have a book written about him.

Update

Well, not much activity to report from the lat week or so.

The interview and photograph of Charlie Booth arrived and was just about worth the money. Mainly becasue of the photograph. We had never been quite sure if Charlie Booth featured in any of the photographs we had of Gainsborough Trinity, and evidently he does not! He should have done as we have the 1887 Gainsborough News Charity Cup winning side with trophy, a team which he played in. But the player who is sat in his position and for a time we believed to be Booth is far too old and not him.

One of the strong parts of our research is the number of illustrations. Hopefully there wo't be much of a problem with copywrite on them. Obviously I will be doing my best to clear copywrite on as many as possible. There is a likely hood that in some cases we won't get it.

Putting faces to the names of the players is important and brings them to life. Hence why I am so pleased to get a photo of Booth. It is from his Wolverhampton Wanderers days 3-4 years after leaving trinity, but it'll be the best we get. It may be the only surviving photograph of him. Although there probably is an arsenal photo buried away somewhere with him in the team.

The interview was not as good, but did fill in a few gaps. And combining this with other research we should be able to get a fairly decent pen picture together of a player who really is lost in History.

Favourite Victorian Footballers

All that news about Charlie Booth has made me think I should list a few more of my favourite footballers from the 1890's

This is by no mean a complete list and is not a list of the 'best' players as such more to do with character too. But obviously some were the very best. They are not in order either.

1. Jack Madden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Madden
2. Billy Bassett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Crabtree
3. Jimmy Crabtree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Crabtree
4. G.O. Smith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Oswald_Smith
5. John Goodall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Goodall
6. Earnest Needham http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Needham
7. Ambrose Langley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose_Langley
8. Steve Bloomer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bloomer
9. Jack Robinson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Robinson_(footballer)
10. Tommy Crawshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Crawshaw
11. Charlie Howlett
12. Harry Walkerdine
13. Charlie Athersmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Athersmith
14. John Reynolds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Reynolds_(footballer_born_1869)

I have said before. Our book will contain selected pen profiles of footballers such as these. They will vary in size depending on what research we have. So Madden will probably get 2 pages, where as others may have one paragraph. The idea is that it will act like a glossery at the back of the book, so as a significant player enters into the story we don't have to explain everything about them. Instead the reader can turn to the back and check out who they are and what they did. I hope thi will make our book even more significant for football history at this time.

There are of course many many more. Many people may wonder why I left out a big fat goalkeepr. In truth evidence would suggest hat he wasn't actually that great, nothing compared to Jack Robinson. But he was a great character, that is fo sure.

Good Ebay News

Yesterday I said that I had some news but didn't want to say until today. This was all because it was about an item that appeared on ebay and I was bidding on. Not that I would lose it to anyone reading this blog, but simply because I hadn't won it yet.

It was a Sports newspaper from 1892 containing a large interview (so I'm lead to believe) with Charlie Booth and a photograph of him too.

One of the best things about researching Fred is discovering other forgotten hero's of victorian football. I do find it facination stuff. They are far more intereting than any footballers around today, and in my biased opinion more interesting than nearly any set of plaers from any period of the game.

Chrlie Booth is one such Character.

He was the Gainsboough Trinity left winger before Fred. He used to train fred when Fred was 15/16 years old. He used to teach Fred in sprint racing but also spent many hours kicking long passes to eachother ona large field.

Fred used to steal eggs from the family hen coop to pay Charlie for his coaching, but he got caught by his parent! All was forgiven when fred started winning races and bringing back prize money.

Fred played against Charlie Booth for Gainsborough Wednedsday and with him on 3 occassions for Trinity.

This important mento of Fred is someone who got lost in history, but he went on to play league football for Wolves and then for Arsenal, which he was made captain. Unfortunately not much has ever been discovered about Charlie. And this magazine may well turn out to be the only thing that has ever been written at length on him.

Obviously I was keen to get hold of it. I can tell you that it took some very nifty ebay bidding to get hold of it within my budget. But I managed to stay cool and out thoght a very keen bidder, who would probably hve gone higher than me if he hd the opportunity.

I may well sell the article once I've finished with it though, as it was a little pricey for what it is. The going rate for these things is never over £10, but this was quite a bit more. Not sure why someone else would be so interested.

Historical Football Kits

I've been adding a few things to this website in recent days. Mainly helping out with Scotland's victorian kit design. It's a brilliant site, take a look.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/

A lot of work has gone into Fred's early performances in recent days. We have newspaper reports which list him playing for his school team. The earliest we have found is from 1883 when he was 13 years old. We have a couple more from a year latter. These along with all Gainsborough Institute, Gainsborough Wednesday, Jubeliee Swifts and Gainsborourgh Trinity matches are are all now in statistic tables, including all team line ups. This is Every Match he played (that has been reported) up to 1891

We do have the complete Alliance stats too for his first season at Wednesday and of course his League and cup stuff for Wednesday. But are currently missing friendly matches/united counties league matches/ and warncliffe charity cup matches for Wednesday.

We have all stats for Glossop, Leeds City and Watford. But unfortunately Southern United is very difficult to research. I have some but not all matches.

I have an illustration from the 40's that is of fred and says he scored over 350 competative goals in his career. I have for a long time dismissed this as a missunderstanding. But the more we get close to completing all the statistics the closer he gets to the total. I'm not sure it will catually get there, but it may be close.

Although our book will have a stats section it will not be the important part of the book, just an appendix at the back.


I have an exciting find, but due to one technicality I don't want to hare it just yet. Maybe tomorrow.

steady progress

Well, progress is being made, but it's a little bit slower these last couple of weeks. Time has been spent in Gainsborough Library looking for rogue matches Fred may have played in.

We found an extra one for the Gainsbourgh Working Mens Institute and another for Gainsborough Wednesday. We also found a couple of Lincolnshire FA repreentative matches.

I don't think we will ever get a full list of every game he played in. I'm sure that some willhave not been reported anyway. But it's very difficult to find all the Lincolnshire FA matches. I have struggled to find the odd Shefield FA matches to. I think I'm 2 Glasgow matches missing, and of course he may well not have played in those games anyway.

I think the biggest challenge would be all the united counties league matches and club matches (friendlies) that were played at the time by The Wednesday.

Fred at FA Cup Exhibition

The Exhibiton containing the 2nd FA Cup trophy (the one which fred won and was first presented in 1896) is currently in Leeds. With it so close to me I had to visit. I have wanted to see the trophy for a long time. Thanks to David Gold the trophy has been saved for the English public to see.

The First thing you see at the Exhibition is a big enlarged photograph of Fred. Which was totally unexpected. There is a board for each final (for the trophy) and because 1896 was the first Fred is obviously on the first board. Shame that I wasn't able to take a photograph of this., although it was the easy picture to find of Fred that is seen in most publications.

I am biased of course in thinking that the trophy is far superior than the current and familiar shaped trophy. It is obviously Victorian in design and may be considered a little fussy by some, but there is no doubt it is a special trophy.

The craftsmanship is obviously superb and the trophy is still in mint condition. It was smaller than I thought it would be, but this made it more delicate and even better than I thought it would be.

There were a few other things at the exhibition although they could have made more of it to be honest. But it was worth the £2 to get in.

There was also a leeds Utd, exhibition in the same room. If anything this proved what a poor history that club has. Either that or the exhitibion was just rubbish.

German Translation and Gainsborough Wednesday

My German friends have been helping translate some of my material on 1FC Nuremberg. So that's good news.

Also, we have discovered that Sheffield Wednesday was not the first 'Wednesday' club that Fred played for. We have discovered several Summer matches that he played for a team called Gainsborough Wednesday. This was in the summer of 1887. So far we have found 5 games, quite a few goals were scored in the games but on the most part they were left uncredited. Fred did score 2 in a 3-2 defeat to another summer football team that contained several excellent Trinity players.

Pensilvania

Was just doing my weekly google searches to see if anything new has hit the internet recently. A weekly ritual that usually brings up something new once or twice a year.

Today it did.

A new book has been digitised and put on line by an american university. It's a book about football in America in 1922. It's a pretty big book. At first I was reading a text version that made little sense, but when I was just about to give up I discovered you could actually look at the original scans. Noticing that phoographs were numbered and that the Google search had a number 2 infront of Fred's name I realised that all I had to do was look at the pictures. 2 minutes later and I'd found it.

A portrait of Fred, and not only that but the realisation that he was a major player in the Eastern Pensilvania Football Association. This is excellent news and fits in perfectly with all other research.

What makes me even more pleased is that the picture is one that I had discovered before but had never been able to copy due to the newspaper libraries rules and regualtions to that particular document. Obviously, this has been a frustration for me for the 3 years since I saw the photograph, and it was brilliant to be able to get it finally. Probably better than finding a brand new photograph, becasue at least it can not longer bug me!

1894

Just a couple of interesting points. The Celtic football history message board has come up with some interesting info about the floodlights I have discussed in a previous post.

Apparently, all the floodlights and all their electrical cables made the ground resemble a dockyard and therefore got given the nickname - Madden's Dockyard. This is after Jonny Madden their centre forward who used to work in the ship building docks.

Madden just happens to be one of the most important players to have played with Fred. He efectively was Fred's mentor at Gainsborough Trinity in the 1887-88 season, Fred's first season with Trinity aged 17.

Madden is a bit of a lost hero. But was possibly the greatest coach of his era. Only thing was that he coached in Prague and therefore his achievements there are not well known here. But they are in Prague!.

I urge people to read about him here and also check out the picture on this page of Madden and Fred sat next to each other in 1887 (front two players Madden on the left fred on the right).

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Gainsborough_Trinity/Gainsborough_Trinity.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Madden